Elementos obligatorios

Buenas! el otro día pegando un vistazo a la prelista del army book 4 de samurais (lista 59) me surgio la duda de los elementos que tienes que meter obligatoriamente como mínimos.

La pregunta viene a ser, los elementos que me obligan a meter por cada general que incluyo en el ejército ¿debén ir con ese general o lo puedo integrar en el mando que yo quiera?


Estas serían las líneas en cuestión:

Foot samurai with naginata or yari and/or katana - Irr Bd (O) @ 5AP 3-12 per general
Only before 1465 AD:
Mounted samurai mostly with bow and katana - Irr Cv (O) @ 7AP 3-6 in each non-Sohei general’s command

ya se que es lista provisional pero no creo que varie en exceso (o si...) pero es para hacerme una idea.

Nos vemos!!

Pues salvo que NO haya ninguna otra parte del texto de la lista que proporcione más información, la situación es la siguiente.

Para la primera tropa, no es obligatorio que cada mínimo vaya en un mando concreto. Tan sólo especifica elk nñumero de elementos que hay que comprar en función de la cantidad de generales que hayas comprado primero.

En el caso de los mounted samurai, no es así. Aquí sí que te especifica que cada general que no sea Sohei debe incluir entre 3 y 6 generales en su mando.

Dicho esto, es extraño que no lo diga tambien para la primera tropa. ¿No hay ninguna otra aclaración en el texto de la lista?

Full list

59. POST-MONGOL SAMURAI 1300 AD - 1542 AD
Cool. Ag 0. S, Rv, DH, SH, Wd, O, E, SF or BF, Rd, BUAf.
E: 3/57, 4/59, 4/73, 4/78.
C-in-C seated with bodyguard - Irr Bd (O) @ 15AP, or mounted - Irr Cv (O) @ 17AP 1
Sub-general - Irr Bd (O) @ 15AP or Irr Cv (O) @ 17AP 1-2
Foot samurai with naginata or yari and/or katana - Irr Bd (O) @ 5AP 3-12 per general
Samurai nobushi archers - Irr Bw (S) @ 5AP 4-8
Foot followers mostly with naginata, double-based behind general or other Cv - Irr Ax (O) @ 2AP 1 per Cv
Shashu no ashigaru with bow - Irr Bw (I) @ 3AP 0-12
Pavises to upgrade Bw (I) to Irr Bw (O) @ 4AP 0-4
Sohei warrior monk ally-general [commanding all and only Sohei] - Reg Bd (O) @ 17AP *1
Sohei warrior monks mostly with naginata - Reg Bd (F) @ 6AP *8-16
Sohei warrior monks with bows - Reg Bw (I) @ 4AP *2-4
Sohei mounted warrior monks - Irr Cv (O) @ 7AP 0-2
Palisade and/or breastworks of standing shields - TF @ 2AP 0-8
Camp - Reg Bge (O) @ 3AP, or porters - Reg Bge (I) @ 2AP 0-2 per general
Armed boys or ladies with light naginata guarding baggage - Irr Bd (I) @ 4AP 0-1
Ishiyumi stone-thrower - Reg Art (I) @ 4AP 0-1
Ships - Irr Shp (O) @ 3AP or Irr Bts (S) @ 3AP [any foot except Hd, including dismounted Cv] 0-3
Despatch boats – Irr Bts (F) @ 2AP 0-1
Only before 1465 AD:
Mounted samurai mostly with bow and katana - Irr Cv (O) @ 7AP 3-6 in each non-Sohei general’s command
Foot samurai with naginata or yari and/or katana - Irr Bd (F) @ 5AP 8-16
Followers mostly with naginata - Irr Ax (I) @ 2AP 12-24
Only from 1336 AD to 1464 AD:
Followers all armed with yari - Irr Pk (F) @ 3AP 0-6

Only from 1465 AD:
Mounted samurai mostly with bow and katana – Irr Cv (O) @ 7AP 0-12
Foot samurai with naginata or yari and/or katana - Irr Bd (O) @ 5AP 12-24
Ashigaru with yari - Irr Pk (F) @ 3AP 12-48
Ikko Ikki fanatics - Irr Hd (S) @ 2AP *30-60
Town militia - Irr Hd (O) @ 1AP *12-24
Chinese hand-guns Reg Sh (I) @ 5AP or firelances –Reg Ps (X) @ 3AP 0-1
Replace Ishiyumi with large Chinese man-pull stone-throwers throwing gunpowder bombs - Reg Art (S) @ 10AP All
This list covers Japanese armies from the aftermath of the Mongol invasions until the introduction of European firearms. In the 14th century, many samurai fought on foot with swords or the glaive-like naginata. They still fought on the run as individuals rather than in formation, so are classed as Bd (F). Many wore haramaki armour, lighter than the cumbersome oyori of previous times, but increasingly with the addition of arm and thigh armour. Other samurai fought as nobushi foot archer and 75% of casualties were still from arrows. During this period the Japanese mainly fought each other. Japanese bowmen were later out-shot by Koreans. The first ashigaru “light feet” were foot archers, but the Onin War of 1467-1477 brought the introduction of large numbers of fierce but lightly equipped ashigaru, which during the 16th century were to evolve into drilled infantry. Most fought with the 3-4m yari spear, previously used by individuals, but which now became the standard weapon and used collectively. Its use and economic devastation combined to cause a reduction in cavalry. Samurai cavalry had not yet abandoned their bows for yari, and were still closely escorted by foot followers. Generals and mounted samurai can dismount as Bd (O, but only to embark on boats or as defined on p.10 of the DBMM rules. Ikko Ikki were a mass militant religious movement based not on the peasantry, but on merchants and artisans from “temple towns” around Honganji temples. They sometimes allied with samurai-based armies and could include Honganji sectarians who were themselves samurai. They could be fought off by improvised town militia reinforced by local samurai, but such self-defence organisations were considered by the authorities to be almost equally subversive! The Sohei monks were as turbulent as before, but less impetuous. Minima marked * apply only if any troops of that origin are used. Sohei monks or Ikko Ikki cannot be used with town militia. Artillery must be protected by TF.

Pues salvo que en la versión final de la lista lo cambien, la cosa va como te he dicho.